Update

Well, it's November third now and the vines' leaves are all yellow and falling off. I had a harvestless year this year in order to get my vines pruned correctly and growing the way I want them to. I had my seedless concord and regular concord on top wire cordon which I really didnt like. It made the canopy too hard to manage and it was hard to get renewal canes to grow correct that high up. So, I cut the vines back to a foot above the ground and let little shoots push out and grow up to a 3 foot wire. I will be training them to a VSP (vertical shoot positioning) system that I think will work much better. I am slightly worried that the concords will have such a trailing growth habit that they wont grow upwards even if they are trained, but I'll have to wait until next spring to find out. I plan on using catch wires every foot above the fruiting wire to train them properly. Below is a picture of all the growth that occurred this year. It's amazing how much grew!

The two smaller yellower vines are Noiret vines. I plan on growing those two wine grapevines to produce my own wine. I also plan on putting 8 Corot Noir and 8 Noiret at another location in my yard. My plan is to grow both using both cane and spur pruning to see what pruning method to use. I will also make wine from both varietals. I will pick which one I like the best, and then remove the other varietal to make room for more canes of the one I prefer.

Next year I should be able to get a full crop from my seedless concord and my concord. They had all year with no fruit this summer to get ready. :)